Oh how I hate Bill Maher. Oh how I hate Bill Maher. Oh how I don't like that guy. The other night, on his show he compared breastfeeding to masturbation. What a @#$% #$#.??
He mentions the Applebee's incident where a woman was breastfeeding and asked to cover up by the management team. Maher said this natural act was nauseating. And then he demeaned women who think the creation of life is a "big deal". Oh how I hate that man. He went on to say that the only place that breasts and food go together is Hooters. Did I mention that I am not a fan of his?? no?? Well, I'm not.
Unfortunately, Maher is not alone in his disdain for public breastfeeding, Recently, Facebook and Myspace have banned pictures of breastfeeding mothers from their sites. In fact, one Canadian woman had her Facebook account closed because of the numerous pictures in her profile of her breastfeeding. Blogger David Westcott notes that while Facebook has 350 pro-anorexia groups on it's network (who are not being hasseled) this woman's profile was taken down. Interesting, no?
Now I am not a lactation-nazi as my friend Lola and I refer to them. Those are women who wake you every 20 seconds in the hospital to make sure they see the baby "latch-on" properly. They are singular in purpose and you are not even a person to them much less a person whose been through the trauma of birth (please don't be offended by that term trauma...I'm just keeping it real). You are merely a set of boobs with latch potential, that's all. You know people like them, who want you to nurse that baby until he starts college. That is not my crowd. I'm more of a "I'll nurse until I feel like stopping" sort of mom. Breastfeeding is fabulous but it's not something I wanted to do past six months with any of my princesses.
Anyhoo, the real problem here, as Izzymom points out in her post today, is that there seems to be a double standard for boobs. If they are shown for marketing purposes and someone makes money off of them, that's good. If they are shown for their actual physiological purpose which is feeding a baby, that's nauseating. Huh? If we are going to start banning boobs in public, let's start with Maher and go from there.
I don't care what your personal breastfeeding philosophy is, you must understand that this is a dangerous precedent. When the Hooters crowd begins shaming us into hiding our breasts for their actual purpose what's next? Burka, anyone?
I would love to hear what you have to say about this so by all means leave a comment or go one better and POST on this issue and link back here and to Izzymom's blog. Let your voice be heard.
Ummm....can one of you help me get down from this soapbox? I can't see for crap in this thing.
I wouldn't say a double standard. It's more of a random/selective standard. For instance, there was the woman who was asked to leave the plane because her outfit was too skimpy and they were a "family" airline. On the other hand, the very same airline use to make their flight attendants wear skimpy outfits too.
I don't think most people agree with Maher. It's just the people who seem to complain/scream the loudest that make it difficult for everyone else.
Posted by: Daddy Forever | September 18, 2007 at 02:07 AM
I believe, unfortunately, that a huge part of viewing and listening audiences LOVE controversial opinions expressed in the media (e.g.,Kathy Griffin on the Emmys), but especially on talk shows. Controversy = interest. Unfortunately, Bill does seem to actually believe the drops of crap that drip from his lips -- so, yes, I do think he qualifies as an honorary, albeit non-productive, BOOB. This is the reason I tend to stay away from talk shows.
Posted by: Hoosier Mama | September 18, 2007 at 07:34 AM
Oh, you've got my blood boiling with this one. It makes me crazy that women can walk around half-naked and nobody thinks anything of it. But using your breasts for their God-given purpose? Scandelous.
I tell you, the world is upside down.
(And, for the record, I am not a breastfeeding nazi either. My third was bottle-fed GENERIC formula from four weeks on...)
Posted by: Llama Momma | September 18, 2007 at 07:43 AM
Bill Maher = biggest BOOB of them all! He was canceled off of one show a few years ago because he was such an idiot, but of course someone else picked him up. I couldn't breast feed, but admire those who do (for a reasonable amount of time, not 6 years). Bill needs to be careful when he starts messing with hormonal mothers is all I have to say.
Posted by: Lady by the Creek | September 18, 2007 at 08:43 AM
I was a breastfeeder, but weaned all of them before they hit a year. I would not personally advocate much beyond that, but people can do what people feel they need to do in my book.
But what ROYALLY PISSES me off is when people act all offended and put out by breastfeeding; yet sound the battle cry over the poor hoochie mama that almost got kicked off a plane for showing too much of what god gave her. Seriously? We have come to that as a society? I am also sick and tired of celebrities shouting their opinion as gospel truths for the rest of us little people. WHO FREAKING CARES? What qualifies Bill as an expert in anything?
Just my two cents. :-)
Posted by: Christie | September 18, 2007 at 09:00 AM
Thanks for the link, Jenny - I think my wife's blog is the one that has the most constructive and helpful information. She's a women's health researcher and advocate. We live about a mile from the Applebees that started this latest ruckus.
http://womenshealthmatters.blogspot.com/2007/09/pro-anorexia-websites-bad-on-all-counts.html
Posted by: David Wescott | September 18, 2007 at 10:22 AM
You know, I've actually always been a fan of Bill Maher. But now, not so much. He was SOOOO off base, especially with his Hooters comment. A lot of us are posting on this, as well.
http://punditmom1.blogspot.com/2007/09/breast-practices.html
Posted by: PunditMom | September 18, 2007 at 10:23 AM
He's an idiot. If I ever met him I would trip him.
Well said, my friend.
Posted by: Beth F. | September 18, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Do you think he's trying to piss people off, like for kicks? That was my first impression - that he's just trying to goad people... because really? What an idiot - he couldn't be serious, could he?
Posted by: madmad | September 18, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Every time I read about people making stupid anti breastfeeding remarks, I am just baffled. Why can't we as a society get our minds around the fact that breastfeeding is good -- for mom, for baby, for everyone. Come one, everybody, pick on somebody besides the nice mommy who's just trying to feed her baby.
Posted by: Teryn | September 18, 2007 at 11:42 AM
I am not a die-hard breast feeder either...I never walked around with a kindergartener hanging off my boob, but I did give it the old college try for a few months.
I can't believe your post. I had no idea! Bill Maher is a Boob, you're right on with that one.
It's insane how these girls walk around with their cheeks hanging out of their short skirts and their push up tank tops and yet it's the mom who is NOURISHING ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE, and probably covered with a blanket, that is "the bad guy."
And as for Facebook...they really need to get their head out of their you-know-where. Crazy!!!
Phew...you really had me all riled up there for a minute. I almost wish Rosie was still on the View...she'd tell Mr. Maher where to go. ;)
Lisa
Posted by: Lisa@Take90West | September 18, 2007 at 11:58 AM
It's crazy that people are so incensed about breast feeding. I rarely nursed in public, but I did pump in a cubicle for a year - it was easier than trekking to the private room with a locking door. And I made a big speech at a staff meeting when it was all over - telling them that I was appreciative, and that I hoped they would be as accommodating when/if they encountered a pumper in the future.
Posted by: maggie | September 18, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Argh! Well you know what I think of Bill Maher now. He can kiss my ___.
Posted by: LawyerMama | September 18, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Bill Maher is an idiot. What I would like an explanation on, is how we have become a nation where it is mostly the idiots that have the microphone. SO tired of the minority being heard all the time. It is time for the silent majority to get loud!
Posted by: New Diva on the Blog | September 18, 2007 at 02:39 PM
It was the attention bit that got my ire. Attention? Like we're whippin' 'em out, nipples in the wind for all to see. Do the covers slip from time to time? Sure. But there are far worse things you'll come across in an Applebees or on the street while you innocently try to have a meal. If a glimpse of pale side of the breast swell makes it tough for you to eat, Mr. Maher, I suggest you take your silicone enhanced bimbo and get thee to a private venue. Lord knows your date is probably showing more than us irresponsible, arrogant and poor planning breastfeeding moms.
Posted by: amanda | September 18, 2007 at 02:54 PM
Per your request, I'm providing a link to a post I wrote about breastfeeding:
http://womenshealthmatters.blogspot.com/2007/09/breastfeeding-is-better-for-babies-and.html
Above and beyond any of the issues you mention, research shows that breastfeeding is better for both infants AND mothers. The health benefits are huge and have long-term consequences. But far be it from any of us to say that we should be concerned about the health and well-being of our women and children when we've got more "important" things to do with breasts - you know, like sell stuff.
Posted by: Leigh Ann Simmons | September 18, 2007 at 03:28 PM
I found your blog via Tales from the Scales. We are in the challenge together! Here we go!
Regarding this...I was bfeeding at a pool one day, under a beach towel, and the lifeguard told me there was a room I could go do that in. I was shocked. You could see more skin and body of the girls in string bikinis, than you could see of me under the towel in my one piece skirted swimsuit! I didn't leave and she didn't push the issue.
Posted by: Michelle | September 18, 2007 at 04:47 PM
I saw this episode too and was way PISSED. Unbelievable!
Posted by: Kristi B. | September 18, 2007 at 07:10 PM
Okay, after reading these comments I'm totally cracking up at the mental picture of a kindergartener hanging off my boob. Of course, I have two kindergarteners, so it's an even funnier thought.
Posted by: Llama Momma | September 18, 2007 at 08:04 PM
I think the whole thing is crazy. Breastfeeding is not porn. What drives me nuts is that we're told that we're bad moms if we formula feed, but we're bad moms if we breastfeed in public or if heaven forbid we have the audacity to ask for breaks to be able to pump at work.
Posted by: Alex Elliot | September 18, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Hi there! Found you through Tales from the Scales. Welcome to the challenge!
Bill Maher is and always HAS been a complete idiot. Every time he opens his mouth, complete drivel comes out. And no, he's not just saying that to stir up controversy, he really is that much of a boob.
I was a breastfeeder, did it almost anywhere, but always discreetly. DD was about 18 months old when she weaned herself. Son was well over 2yo and it was a battle. :-) Most people never knew what I was doing. The militant breastfeeders that DO whip it out for all to see to make a point, tend to get things riled up unnecessarily. But it's basically because our society has sexualized the breasts that causes people to get embarrassed when a woman is feeding her baby. Pretty stupid.
Posted by: MamaBearJune | September 18, 2007 at 10:35 PM
Bill Maher is a total idiot! I was a proud breastfeeding mom to all four of my kids. If I ever found it necessary to nurse in public, I was ALWAYS discreet. As others before me have mentioned, most people didn't even know what I was doing. You see more skin on tv in a Victoria's Secret commercial for goodness sakes. People like Bill Maher are so ignorant that I feel sorry for them! Thanks for this post!
Posted by: Kari C. | September 19, 2007 at 08:34 AM
I will have to admit that I quit watching and/or caring about what Bill Maher thinks years ago, this was way before my youngest was born, so maybe 12 years.
He can talk all he wants but that doesn't make what he says hold any kind of truth.
Posted by: Maggie | September 19, 2007 at 04:47 PM
I'm with Maggie. I stopped watching Bill Maher when Politically Incorrect moved off Comedy Central, way back in the stone age.
I always thought he was pretty funny, and the mixture of guests he used to get was AMAZING.
But as someone who nursed her youngest until she was older than two, I'm pissed off.
I'd tell Bill to kiss my ass, but it would be more evil to smother him with my giant post-breastfeeding udders.
Posted by: Poppy | September 19, 2007 at 05:41 PM
My husband actually guest-posted about this subject at my blog.
I wish men (and some women) would finally get the message that when you insist a breastfeeding woman COVER UP, it is the same as telling her not to breastfeed at all. I have breastfed all three of my children and NONE of them would eat with fabric touching their face or head.
Posted by: veronica | September 19, 2007 at 11:59 PM